Load out gear

[The DRis]

I think I want to have two setups. A tact vest, and just a belt setup.

The vest I'm pretty sure I want is the Camelback Delta 5.



A plain vest that I can setup how I want, and it has a hydration bladder. Watching the nutnfancy videos made me laugh as to how much stuff was on their vests. I think only the neccessities should be there, the extra stuff you want to have would be in a pack/backpack that you would leave in the truck or at camp. That way if you need to go light, you just drop the pack.

As for the belt, I don't know. The belt is for when I want to go super light with the most flexibilty and least restriction. Need to do more research as to what belt, and or mag holders to use. I don't like the velcro over the top mag pouches. I use them in USPSA and they take too long, I shoot USPSA to get myself use to my setup, not to be the fastest, but I have yet to find an open top mag holder for my XD 45 mags that retains the mags while running. Also the current pistol belt I have, I need to work on, it is too fat to run through my belt loops on my BDU's, and it rides up when running, bending over, or just walking. Very irratating, I think I need some belt retainers. I want to get a drop leg platform for my pistol, get it lower, and that would also help keep the belt low.

Just trying to bounce ideas off you guys, see if you have any ideas.

[Crackerballer]

Looks cool, but I want this:



http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-03-Modular-Split-Front-Chest-Harness-03-MSF-p/03%20msf1%20mulitcam.htm

I want it in black, looks pretty sick, and takes care of the hydration part. I also like that is is more open than the camel back one you show.

[Wayneard3413]

If you are wanting to run a lightweight rig I would suggest something along the lines of a Tactical Tailor MAV, you could set it up with whatever open top pouches or shingles you need

As for a belt kit, what are you planning on running on it? A quality purpose built belt will be good for just a pistol and a couple of reloads... If however you are planning on running 3-4 AR mags as well then it would probably be a good idea to check out some of the MOLLE belts on the market and match it up with a set of suspenders

[The DRis]

Looks cool, but I want this:



http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-03-Modular-Split-Front-Chest-Harness-03-MSF-p/03%20msf1%20mulitcam.htm

I want it in black, looks pretty sick, and takes care of the hydration part. I also like that is is more open than the camel back one you show.

Looking into that type of setup. Thanks for the pic

[The DRis]

If you are wanting to run a lightweight rig I would suggest something along the lines of a Tactical Tailor MAV, you could set it up with whatever open top pouches or shingles you need

As for a belt kit, what are you planning on running on it? A quality purpose built belt will be good for just a pistol and a couple of reloads... If however you are planning on running 3-4 AR mags as well then it would probably be a good idea to check out some of the MOLLE belts on the market and match it up with a set of suspenders

I like the molle webbing all over the vest. I can see the benefits of that setup. What do you like about it over a vest? I like the first one posted becaue it has molle on the back and a hydration resevoir.

As for the belt. it would be a drop leg platform for the pistol, a few pistol mags, 3 AR mags, and maybe a light, knife, or multi tool. Canteen, IDK, trying not to add too much to it,

[Wayneard3413]

The problem I see a lot of is people wanting to fill up all of the MOLLE webbing on their kit... Your also looking at a heavier and hotter carrier that you don't need unless you are running soft armor and plates

A smaller rig like a MAV will carry everything you might need... Running it with a X harness you can still run your choice of Camelbak or other hydro carrier

As for your belt that is still quite a bit of weight... If you decide to keep running it on a trouser belt I would look at something like a rigid belt from Ares or something similar

I think an ATS or Blue Force Gear warbelt would probably work out a bit better for you

You also might want to ask yourself if you really need to run a drop leg holster or not... Do you really want to train with a pistol dropped down to the top of your thigh if you are going to be carrying it on your hip everyday?

Here are a couple of pics of my last belt rig...

[sneedb82]

Is that Costa in the lower picture Wayne?

[mvician]

yep, here is the thread and some video.

http://www.ar15chatterbox.com/viewtopic.php?t=271

[Wayneard3413]

^^^ What Mike said haha

That belt setup allowed me to run 3 AR mags and two Glock mags... If you went with an ATS or BFG belt that doesn't have the gap you could fit another pouch or two stacked and be good to go

The front of the belt had plenty of room to mount a handheld light if needed (I prefer running an E1E or E2D in a pocket) or multitool if needed... I can also rubber band a CAT to the belt as well

[The DRis]

The problem I see a lot of is people wanting to fill up all of the MOLLE webbing on their kit... Your also looking at a heavier and hotter carrier that you don't need unless you are running soft armor and plates

A smaller rig like a MAV will carry everything you might need... Running it with a X harness you can still run your choice of Camelbak or other hydro carrier

As for your belt that is still quite a bit of weight... If you decide to keep running it on a trouser belt I would look at something like a rigid belt from Ares or something similar

I think an ATS or Blue Force Gear warbelt would probably work out a bit better for you

You also might want to ask yourself if you really need to run a drop leg holster or not... Do you really want to train with a pistol dropped down to the top of your thigh if you are going to be carrying it on your hip everyday?


^^^ What Mike said haha

That belt setup allowed me to run 3 AR mags and two Glock mags... If you went with an ATS or BFG belt that doesn't have the gap you could fit another pouch or two stacked and be good to go

The front of the belt had plenty of room to mount a handheld light if needed (I prefer running an E1E or E2D in a pocket) or multitool if needed... I can also rubber band a CAT to the belt as well

I'm not running a trouser belt. It is seperate stiffer, wider pistol belt. It has a pad than can be run with it as well, but with just my pistol and a couple of mags on it I don't need the pad.

I won't be running plates, but I don't think the Camelback will even accomodate plates. I won't try and fill up all the webbing either. I like it because it gives you more choices of positioning. But I'm not sure. Hence me asking all you's guys.

I don't carry my pistol on my hip, since in CA I can't. So the leg holster won't really be a big deal for me. For me its easier to draw and get on target becaue your arm is almost fully extended, and pulling up I don't have to bend my arm as far.

[Joeywhat]

I've got a Tactical tailor MAV with a bunch of pouches I'm selling...think I had it for about $115, with a 3 mag pistol pouch, 3 mag AR pouch, bib, 2 six shell shotgun carrier on the bib, and a 2 space 'utility' pouch...could fit at least a couple AR mags in each. Only thing wrong with it is the piece of plastic that holds the straps back straps at the right position is gone.

I ran it for a while, and it's good...but I like belt mounted carriers better. More practical IMO since I'm not in the sandbox, and I'll NEVER have the vest on me unless I'm gaming or something. I always have my belt carriers on me.

[Wayneard3413]

Here is my old chest rig I used to run over my IBA...



Then I went on a little "mini-deployment" that didn't have me running anything other than soft armor under my uniform so I went to something like this (cuff pouch not shown)



Then my "heavy rig" started looking more like this..


My training rig is more along the lines of this now (plus a couple of pistol mags of course)..

[Wayneard3413]

But I am talking with Jay from Raven Concealment to get me a custom made setup for my needs along the lines of this...

[sneedb82]

Amazing what they can do with Kydex and nylon, eh Wayne?

[Crackerballer]

That's crazy, those all look so serious. I am going to wait and take a few courses and see what my style and habits are before I invest in anything like that.